Dialogue vol 3 no 1

Posted August 2003

Dialogues, Vol. 3, No. 1

Reflection and amplification on RULERS OF EVIL through correspondence between ROEders and the author

DAVID WROTE:

I want to thank you for the courage you demonstrated in writing this book! Your work has assisted me with the struggle of just being angry and indignant at the governmental and economic powers-that-be.

Over the past several years I've read numerous Noam Chomsky books and others; these writers got me looking past my naive and propagandized perspectives. And then my faith in Jesus Christ and the admonition to "love not the world" became enriched through your text. Especially chapters 24 and 25.

...And then I looked more closely at one of my diplomas—from Princeton Seminary in NJ: the emblem on the bottom shows a Holy Bible illuminated by a sun with numerous rays (Ra fromEgypt?).

During my studies in 1984-87, German liberalism was espoused and expected of all students learning theology and biblical studies. I did not succumb! Look forward to your next book.

TUPPER WROTE:

The rays would more probably mean Mithras, who was notoriously confused with the Lord Jesus Christ during the first century of the Church. I think the Savior of the American churches today is Mithras, the great and secret Roman imperial god, and it was probably Mithras who encouraged the American patriots to put England to the sword. David Ulansey has done some interesting astrological scholarship that links Mithras directly to the historical Cain, although I doubt Ulansey is aware of the fact. (He hasn't responded to my inquiries.)

Thanks for your interest. My next book should be announced soon on my website.

B. B. WROTE:

...I would reference you to the EVIL that is presented in your book Rulers of Evil.

TUPPER WROTE:

If you've read the final chapter of Rulers of Evil, you probably know that my position regarding the evils of rulers is one not of condemnation but of reconciliation.

The surest way to incur the unnecessary and inconvenient wrath of rulers is to judge them, and this is perfectly in accord with scripture: "Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned."

This does not mean that I look the other way, or do nothing while evildoers prosper.

As a Christian, I must be "about my Father's business," and that doesn't include judging worldly political systems. I know the federal system was chartered, orchestrated, and brought to life by protestant zealots unwittingly doing the muscle work of the Society of Jesus so that an English-speaking protestant nation could be established on a constitution that permitted Roman Catholics to reach the highest political offices. What these people do with their government is none of my business.

What Rome did with its government was none of the apostle Paul's business, yet Paul valued his Roman citizenship because it protected his method of worshipping his God.

For ten years I lived as a fugitive. It was perfect freedom without any civil rights. I didn't vote, didn't sue, wasn't sued, had no licenses from any government but my own, which is Christ. Driving cars unregistered in any state, I was stopped no less than six times and courteously released because the paperwork I presented them, although issued by no state, satisfied their needs. Just as scripture commands, I submitted, but my submission gave them no right of action against me because (a) none of my documentation showed jurisdictional nexus to a state with which they had compacted, (b) I had violated no common law or ordinance of man, and (c) I had done nothing personally offensive to the inquiring authority.

I was also able to enjoy the benefits of the banking system, although I know federal reserve banking is fundamentally evil. The Lord says He will make of our enemies "a footstool." I take that to mean that the malevolent energies of evildoers can be, and are supposed to be, used by us for good purposes. This is impossible if we condemn governments rather than submit to them.

So, regarding the treason issue, I'm satisfied to let the charges of treason come from within the government, which ain't gonna happen. Treason charged from outside the government is a vanity because it lacks standing. There are so many proofs that the USA is an organic part of the Babylon of biblical prophecy (many will be found in Rulers of Evil) that little time has to be spent any longer trying to convince people of the fact. What's important for me is to obey the biblical imperative and "Come out of her, my people." Coming out of Babylon means looking on her wickedness sadly, because she's been judged by the only power that can (and will soon) destroy her.

Coming out of a system as complex as USA is harder than kicking an addiction. Indeed, USA is an addiction, and part of the addiction is being angry over her evils. I see many people addicted to anger. Rulers know the people love to learn of scandals and bigtime ripoffs because it keeps them angry, and reactive. Rome built the USA on patriotic anger; she built the Confederacy on the same thing, and the reconstructed 14th-amendment constitution, too. She's in the process of building the ultimate fascistic state on that same anger, and we can choose to be the unpaid construction workers by fomenting condemnation, or we can lay ourselves off.

Fortunately, the laws have always made it possible for non-playing citizens to be unmolested. This is the fundamental treasure of American citizenship. On my site is an article "15 Brienner Strasse," which shows the origins of Hitler's government as a movement to stop communism. Hitler's first major support came from the Vatican emissary to Bavaria, E. Pacelli, who later became Pope Pius XII. The Vatican, led by its militant wing the Society of Jesus, has historically opposed communism—although the Society of Jesus is essentially, by the dictates of its own Constitutions, a communist organism.

USA's most vigorously anti-communist prelate, Cardinal Spellman, was a Jesuit and a bedfellow of J. Edgar Hoover, a zealous anti-communist 32nd-degree Freemason. The condition of the USA today was brought about by dozens of trillions of dollars and hundreds of thousands of lives raised by men like Spellman and Hoover from Americans committed to the eradication of communism. All this wealth and tragedy now culminates in the politics of Homeland Security, which augurs to be as repressive and as deceptive as bolshevik Russia ever was. And we have the people's reaction to the summons to fight communism in a spirit of judgmentalism and condemnation to thank for it.

So I'm a little wary of calls to oppose anything. Fomenting opposition is the grand strategy of rulers of evildoers. They capitalize on the natural spirit of rebellion in all of us, and we forget (or never learn) that in God's mind rebellion is "as the sin of witchcraft." They organize the rebels into useful armies that go out and fetch what the rulers need. They did it with the congregationalists and deists of the thirteen colonies, they did it with my forebears in the deep south, they did it with the Klan and the Negroes and the communists and the anti-communists and the liberals and conservatives and workers and managers and pro-lifers and pro-choice and gays and straights and feminists and male-chauvinists, and the polarization goes on and on making, as Christ put it, "merchandise of you."

It's not that I oppose opponents of communism. I wish them well, because communism is an ugly system. But anti-communism can be just as ugly. So I wish good fortune to communists at the hands of oppressive anti-communists. The only thing I can be certain of is that I am not working for either party, except to let them know that the best government is one they have yet to try, the Lord Jesus Christ.

THE PHELPS ATTACK

August 9, 2002

Dear Friends:

. . . .From now on I will refer to F. Tupper Saussy as a Jesuit Coadjutor until he
confronts me and refutes my charges. This email will go everywhere including Spectrum.

Sincerely in Faith,
Eric Jon Phelps

August 10, 2002

Mr. Phelps,

If you would kindly address your charges, one by one, directly to me
I would be happy to refute them.

Sincerely,
Tupper Saussy

August 12, 2002

Dear Mr. Saussy,

THANK YOU for contacting me.

I would be happy to list the most important charges one by one.

Please give me a day or two to assemble them.

I sincerely hope that I am wrong.

Sincerely in Faith,
Brother Eric

August 14, 2002

Dear Friends,

I will not be able to forward emails for about a week, as I am debating F. Tupper Saussy concerning some major errors, which I consider deliberate, in his book on the Society of Jesus titled Rulers of Evil.

I have accused Mr. Saussy of being a Jesuit Temporal Coadjutor and thus will bring up my charges based upon quotations from his book. You will be privy to all the debates between us. We all should learn much - most of all me.

Sincerely in Faith,
Brother Eric

August 19, 2002

Dear Mr. Saussy,

I apologize for not beginning our exchange sooner.

The attachment sets forth my Three General Charges causing me to conclude that
you are a Jesuit Temporal Coadjutor.

Please let me know if the terms of exchange are acceptable to you.
If so, I shall begin with my first charge to which then you may respond.

Thank you for your time and effort in this important matter.

Sincerely in Faith,
Brother Eric

Augusts 20, 2002

Mr. Phelps,

Your attachment cites various passages and ideas in my book with which you agree and disagree.

But I am confused by the "Three General Charges" which have led you to declare me publicly, in advance of your having received my answer to said charges, a Jesuit Temporal Coadjutor under oath to the Superior General. This is a grave accusation, and should be attended by personal knowledge of relevant facts.

I cannot possibly answer your charges until you list them one by one, as I requested in my letter to you of August 10. Please state them clearly. Don't oblige me, or any other reader, to guess what they are. And please recognize that a mere difference of opinion does not constitute a valid charge.

I cannot consider this exchange a "debate" in any sense of the word. You seem to be accusing me of an act of conspiracy and deception against my brethren in the biblical Christian faith. I am responding to your accusation. This is not a debate. It is an inquisition, to which I am gladly submitting in order to give an answer to every man that asks a reason of the hope that is in me.

Sincerely yours,
Tupper Saussy

Webmaster's note: Eric Jon Phelps, author of Vatican Assassins, has yet to respond to Tupper Saussy's request for specific charges, yet continues to refer to Saussy as a covert Jesuit operative. July 28, 2003.